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CNN's Carol Costello Stomps Out Hate Group Leader's Boy Scout BS: VIDEO

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CNN's Carol Costello spoke with hate group leader Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council, the group who took out the full page ad in USA Today urging the Boy Scouts to retain its gay ban.

Sprigg says that parents have the right to protect their kids from teh gay.

Said Sprigg: "The mere fact that someone openly identifies themselves as homosexual means that they are modeling for boys the acceptability of homosexual conduct. And parents who do not agree with that view have a right to protect their children form that...They have a right to protect their children from the potential risk of child sexual abuse at the hands of men who might be attracted to other males."

Costello correctly asserts the APA study that shows homosexuals are not any more likely to molest kids than straight men.

"Unless you're condemning every single homosexual in the country as being a possible pedophile, that's not fair!"

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Why does CNN continually give members of the FRC, a certified hate-group, a platform to spread their egregious views?

    Posted by: Gigi | Feb 4, 2013 2:22:17 PM


  2. What did she stomp out?

    Posted by: MIKE | Feb 4, 2013 2:24:46 PM


  3. uh, uh, um, uh... even Sprigg is having a hard time figuring out how to defend his position without sounding like a complete idiot. (A task at which he failed here.)

    I don't see how the BSA puts this back in the bottle. How can they possibly announce later this week that they have decided to stick with the ban? Stick a fork in it, it's done. Thanks for playing FRC.

    Posted by: Jacques | Feb 4, 2013 2:24:49 PM


  4. "The mere fact that someone openly identifies themselves as homosexual means that they are modeling for boys the acceptability of homosexual conduct."

    The mere fact that you hold yourself up as a paragon of "family values," which is nothing more than a disguise for open bigotry and hatred means you are modeling yourself for boys the acceptability of bigoted conduct.

    Assh*le!

    Posted by: johnny | Feb 4, 2013 2:25:09 PM


  5. You say this every time Gigi...it's getting old.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 4, 2013 2:26:24 PM


  6. The more they (the narrow minded bigots) talk, the more everyone talks about this subject and asks questions. The more they speak, the more they back themselves into a corner. FRC, Westboro Baptist Church, etc., has done huge favors for LGBT causes by being so crazy and hateful.

    Posted by: J. Alan | Feb 4, 2013 2:27:34 PM


  7. Why would anyone like to be a part this organization, which tolerates this kind of discrimination?

    Posted by: Matt26 | Feb 4, 2013 2:39:06 PM


  8. Isn't there a saying a long the lines of don't trust someone you can't look in the eye? That mans are tiny black dots I can barely see.
    On a different note, do people actually join the boy scouts any more?

    Posted by: Will | Feb 4, 2013 2:40:16 PM


  9. He's the poster child for beady little eyes. How can he see?

    Posted by: Paul | Feb 4, 2013 2:42:26 PM


  10. Gigi says this every time because it's true!

    I love that Carol Costello is going to the mat with this asshat, but someone needs to tell her that terms like "gay lifestyle" and "gay agenda" are as obsolete as Family Research Council.

    Posted by: peterparker | Feb 4, 2013 2:43:08 PM


  11. In fact the BSA does not ban gays in general, only those that have come out - otherwise they wouldn't know. In terms of adult supervision, someone who is out is the least likely person to be trolling for young or not so young boys: whatever his sexual orientation, a pedophile looking for victims is not likely to shout, "Yo, I'm gay," which would ensure that he would be persona non grata - these guys may be evil, but they are not stupid.

    Posted by: Bill | Feb 4, 2013 2:49:19 PM


  12. So you are saying that groups like this should just fly under the radar and spew their crap (and take out ads in the media) and not have to publicly defend their bigotry? I would rather they have to answer to their stupidity on national tv and look like fools doing so, it actually helps us. Also, I think she was using those terms (their terms) in a backhanded way against this guy.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 4, 2013 2:50:50 PM


  13. @J. ALAN

    Unfortunately, that isn't true. Research has proven that lies told often enough eventually become almost impossible to "correct" in people's minds. Indeed, research shows that after a certain point, trying to show people facts proving the lies are inaccurate just makes them dig in more.

    Perhaps the most famous use of this was Hitler blaming the Jews for all of the problems of Germany after WW I. For more recent examples just look at Fox News or the Republican Party.

    Humans are not entirely rational. You're assuming that pointing out factual errors will solve the problem. One need only look at religion to see that this isn't the case. You can point out all of the factual errors and impossibilities in the Bible all day and it doesn't change a lot of minds. If people are primed to feel a certain way, they are easily pulled in to believe a lie.

    That is the real danger of giving these people a platform to spew hate, and it doesn't matter a damn if someone is sitting right there to point out the flaws and errors.

    Liberal, scientific, and LGBT groups all think that if only we can show enough people the facts they'll come around. We make the fatal assumption that everyone thinks like we do and treasures reason, fact, and science. This is why we're having such a hard time.

    A great video explaining how we should be using strategic communication in talking to these groups is:

    Sadie Crabtree on Winning Hearts And Minds for Skepticism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUrvJPLNCI

    Posted by: Eric | Feb 4, 2013 2:51:36 PM


  14. Lifting the ban just leaves the issue to the local troop. Most of them will keep the ban and for the most part nothing will change. This is a PR move to appeal to corporations with nondiscrimation policies that the nationwide ban violates (and who are therefore not donating to BSA).

    Posted by: Houndentenor | Feb 4, 2013 2:52:16 PM


  15. I agree with Houndentenor, I think this is merely a ploy to get back the money they are losing to corporate sponsors. I very much doubt they will ever reverse their policies and will have a clause saying this is up to the troop to decide to allow gays to participate or or a become a Scout Leader. But will encourage them not to allow gays in their troops. Follow the $$$$

    Posted by: KuMiCu | Feb 4, 2013 3:03:10 PM


  16. @Hound, that is my concern. Because the decision to accept gay scouts/leaders will be left to the local troops, I'm afraid that we will have hodgepodge rules around the country with many non-accepting troops, particularly those in very religious communities.

    Posted by: Belthazar | Feb 4, 2013 3:09:12 PM


  17. @HUH Three things:

    1. Good to know that you're paying attention.
    2. It's something that's worth repeating.
    3. You criticize yet offer no counter-argument. Why is that?

    Posted by: ostracario | Feb 4, 2013 3:09:32 PM


  18. The BSA already allows women as full leaders. In most areas there are still a lot more men leaders, but there are women at every level of leadership. Peter Sprigg doesn't know what he's talking about.

    Posted by: Jeffret | Feb 4, 2013 3:19:48 PM


  19. @Hound. Absolutely right.

    And, at this point, they can't vote not to accept any gay scouts. That would kill even more of their corporate sponsors because it would make clear that they discriminate.

    It is, at least, a step forward - if a highly imperfect step. It still means that a gay scout or scout leader can find - or start - a group that they can belong to.

    But would Rosa Parks be satisfied knowing that she could sit in the front of certain buses, but not all buses? No. Neither should we.

    Posted by: gr8guyca | Feb 4, 2013 3:29:13 PM


  20. @Ostracario: good to know you are paying attention. Please see my post at 2:50 to see what my reason was. Thanks for coming out.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 4, 2013 3:43:32 PM


  21. @Ostracario...it's worth repeating:

    So you are saying that groups like this should just fly under the radar and spew their crap (and take out ads in the media) and not have to publicly defend their bigotry? I would rather they have to answer to their stupidity on national tv and look like fools doing so, it actually helps us.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 4, 2013 3:46:26 PM


  22. @PETERPARKER Thanks for the love!

    @HUH Should CNN allow Holocaust deniers weekly access to their programs to discuss their views? How about the KKK? I understand your point. I've often had this discussion with others about the David Pakman show. He's sparred with people from the Westboro Baptist Church, Bryan Fischer, Gordon Klingenschmitt and many others, but he doesn't let them get away with anything. He calls them out for the bigotry and hypocrisy. Costello did an O-K job of this but I'd still rather she didn't bother.

    You've got your opinion and I've got mine.
    Thanks for the shout-out!

    Posted by: Gigi | Feb 4, 2013 3:58:43 PM


  23. Well you analogy is a little off. These religious groups are in the news now for fighting against gay issues that are in the news now. That's what makes it topical today. If the Holocaust deniers and the KKK put an ad in today's edition of USA Today like these groups did, then by all means go after them. But they didn't and we are discussing this topic...today.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 4, 2013 4:32:48 PM


  24. Abort the gays & transexuals.

    Posted by: funinsnows | Feb 4, 2013 5:27:38 PM


  25. Yes, gays are child molesters or homolesters such as Jerry Sandusky & the priests who homolest boys-they are homosexuals. 33% of gays report homosexual rape in youth. Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth is major cause of homosexual behaviors-to deny it is dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of Jerry Sandusky's victims think they're gay :toilet: because of this. Homosexual/lesbian sexual behaviors :toilet: are bad for health often as result of childhood sex abuse though there possibly other causes such as birth defect though they've not conclusively proven gayism's inborn. All that is truth just as it's truth Carol Costello passes gas & dumps turds.

    Posted by: funinsnows | Feb 4, 2013 5:29:44 PM


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