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Jon Stewart Mocks the UK Parliament's Gay Marriage Debate: VIDEO

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Jon Stewart looks at the UK's marriage equality debate versus the one in the United States and notes that it lacks a certain omniscient all-powerful being.

"Tories, I know the stakes are lower over there because Britain doesn't have hurricanes every time two dudes kiss, but try it once more, and this time put some feeling into it!...Five hours of debate and not one mention of the slippery slope of incestuous pedophile orgies?"

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  1. Oh there are definitely some religious fanatics in Britain and some politicians didn't hide that they are under control from the Vatican. But most usually know better than being overtly religious.

    Posted by: Steve | Feb 7, 2013 10:37:33 AM


  2. They should have all been wearing powdered wigs. Now that would have been worth watching.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 10:38:53 AM


  3. The real religious fanatics over there in modern times at least have been the same as the one's here, fundamentalist, based mainly in Scotland and N. Ireland. And to a lesser extent some radically conservative Catholics an mainstream Protestants. Most English people are mainstream Protestant or non-religious, with a large minority of Catholics, most of whom are not anymore religious than typical Anglicans.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 10:43:22 AM


  4. Apart from the dude who meant to say "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" but instead said "Adam and Steve, not -". Then the ones who were openly quoting the bible and "god", and the angry Scot who sounded creepily similar to the guy in 'Lincoln' who said (I'm paraphrasing) "Why should we give equality to those who god has not made equal".

    Posted by: Chris | Feb 7, 2013 10:53:40 AM


  5. It is really only in America that religion becomes part of every public discussion, at least in western developed societies. Most other nations are much more secular. Certainly in Canada when politicians start to bring religion into a debate it is considered very bad form and usually a sign that they are losing the debate.
    Do American politicians ever look at the countries that already have same sex marriages and question why God hasn't washed them off the face of the earth and why those societies seem better off both economically and socially.

    Posted by: Swiminbuff | Feb 7, 2013 10:59:41 AM


  6. There is another factor at play: with its massive Muslim population, Britain has a stake in keeping secular civil law secular. Unlike those idiot lawmakers in the U.S. who thing "religion" means "Christianity", or more usually, "my type of Christianity".

    Posted by: Strepsi | Feb 7, 2013 11:04:20 AM


  7. This clip isn't available here in the UK so I'm not sure what JS says, but I can assure you the debate here has had very much to do with religion, "religious protection"--whatever that means--etc. That said, the level of discourse is much more sophisticated and informed on all sides than debate on the same topic in the US. Brits have yet to fall prey to complete ignorance culturally as the US seems to have done.

    Posted by: Wil | Feb 7, 2013 11:06:48 AM


  8. @Strespi:
    Fun fact: all Muslim MPs voted for same-sex marriage

    Posted by: Steve | Feb 7, 2013 11:28:02 AM


  9. "massive Muslim population" ?

    Oh yes, I forgot, in comparison to Kansas we have a few darker skinned and different people, all throbbing to murder us in our beds and take over.

    Oh yes, I thought that was the Catholics - or was it the Jews last time? No, I'm sure it was the Gypsies...... or was it the Welsh..... I'll have a bit of a think.....

    Posted by: Coemgenus | Feb 7, 2013 12:17:57 PM


  10. Oh puhleeze. Brits and Canadians are so much more 'sophisticated' than Americans. What a phuking tired and ignorant cliche. And FYI for Brits and Canadians: MOST Americans ARE NOT obsessed with religion, America has a constitutionally clear separation of church and state. What we do have is some people who are religious and they have every right to speak their mind. They won't be arrested like in the Uk if they say something someone finds 'offensive'. Ditto Canada and it's extra-judicial 'Human Rights' so-called tribunals.

    Non-Americans also get MASSIVE amounts of news about America [I suppose because it's still the dominate would power, is by far the largest 'Anglo' English-speaking country, far larger population-wise than all the the UK, Ireland, Canada, Australia and N.Z. combined] and much of the 'news' and info they hear is extremely biased cr*ap.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 1:11:09 PM


  11. The Muslim population of the UK is still quite small, maybe at most 5%. The UK population, even England, is OVERWHELMINGLY white British/European.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 1:12:32 PM


  12. John clearly didn't actually watch the debate; or at least not all of it. There most certainly were MP's who spoke of "slipper slopes" and concern trolled with questions about why they should allow gay marriages but not incestuous marriages.

    England is far from the secular "holy land" that many Americans think it is. It beats the hell out of the USA but there is still a very vocal and well financed religious right.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Feb 7, 2013 1:18:03 PM


  13. @Coemgenus,

    Kansas:

    According to the 2010 Census, 83.8% of the population was White (78.2% non-Hispanic white), 5.9% was Black or African American, 1.0% American Indian and Alaska Native, 2.4% Asian, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 3.0% from two or more races. 10.5% of the total population was of Hispanic or Latino origin (they may be of any race).[19]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas#Demographics

    Kansas cities:

    Kansas City,Kansas:

    'The racial makeup of the city was 52.2% White, 26.8% African American, 0.8% Native American, 2.7% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 13.6% from other races, and 3.8% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 27.8% of the population. Non-Hispanic Whites were 40.2% of the population in 2010,[9] down from 76.3% in 1970.[10]'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Kansas

    [Kansas City,Missouri borders Kansas City, Kansas, they're twin cities]

    White: 59.2% (Non-Hispanic Whites: 54.9%)
    Black or African American: 29.2%
    Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 10.0%
    Some other race: 4.5% (primarily Latino)
    Two or more races: 3.2%
    Asian: 2.5%
    Native American: 0.5%
    Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 0.2%

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Missouri#Demographics

    Wichita:

    'The racial makeup of the city was 71.9% White, 11.5% African American, 4.8% Asian (2.4% Vietnamese, 0.5% Indian, 0.3% Filipino, 0.4% Chinese, 0.3% Laotian, 0.1% Korean, 0.1% Pakistani, 1.1% other Asian), 1.2% American Indian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 6.2% from other races, and 4.3% from two or more races. 15.3% of the population was Hispanic or Latino of any race (13.0% Mexican, 0.4% Puerto Rican, 0.1% Cuban, 1.7% other Hispanic or Latino).[46] Non-Hispanic Whites were 64.5% of the population in 2010,[47] down from 87.2% in 1970.[48]'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita,_Kansas#Demographics

    UK:

    The population is mainly white, with 92.1%, followed by 4% South Asian, 2% black, 1.2% mixed, 0.4% Chinese and 0.4% other. (Gapminder, Wikipedia

    http://ukdemographics.weebly.com/major-demographic-characteristics.html

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 1:29:04 PM


  14. Our constitution(s) didn't prevent anti-gay religious people from inserting their religious opinions into LAW and into state constitutions. That is far more than "expressing a religious opinion". Everyone has a right to their religious beliefs but no one should have a right to enforce their religious code on those who don't share it as has been done in America.

    And how funny that a person who gets all of his "facts" from Fox News complains that ferners git too much biased crap newz!

    That is hiiiiiilarious!

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Feb 7, 2013 1:32:23 PM


  15. @TampaZeke,

    FYI I DO NOT get all my facts from Fox, in fact I rarely if ever watch Fox. Get some new material, this sh*it is old.

    TampaZeke, in the UK the Queen is not only head of state, she's also the 'Defender of the Faith' and temporal head of the Church of England. The British prime minister actually appoints bishops to the Church of England [Anglican Church - Episcopal Church in the U.S.].

    The evangelical Protestants and Baptist in America's bible belt are mostly descended from Scottish-Irish settlers who brought their particular brand of evangelical Protestantism and Baptist faith to America.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 1:43:33 PM


  16. Religions in Europe went into steep decline after WWI and WWII because they were largely funded by govt. largess, which no one could afford when whole cities are burned down. However, the subsides continue to this day, with priests on the public payroll giving homilies to empty churches. The UK is publicly more religious than the US by a wide margin, but it's a formality. I think the decline of religion in Europe accelerated after the fall of the Berlin wall and the rise of cable TV in Europe, which lowered the relevance of a lot of govt. enforced TV propaganda shows. However, the Europe of 2013 is not the same as the Europe of 1960. Gay rights is still a fairly recent phenomenon.

    Posted by: anon | Feb 7, 2013 4:06:49 PM


  17. Jon Stewart is simply the best.

    Posted by: andrew | Feb 7, 2013 6:36:29 PM


  18. RATBASTARD showing his disdain for Canada again. His hatred of Kiwi means he has to take it out on the other 30 million who aren't Kiwi.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 7, 2013 9:18:16 PM


  19. @Huh,

    I love Canada. I do. Most Canadians are cool as sh*it. Not the lil' c*unt from Toronto,though.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 7, 2013 9:42:07 PM


  20. Then quit being a pr*ck.

    Posted by: HUH | Feb 8, 2013 1:00:34 AM


  21. Not impressed with Jon's analysis here -- there was plenty of American-style religious kookiness on display in the Commons debate on SSM. One MP even used the "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" line.

    Posted by: David L Rattigan | Feb 8, 2013 5:58:39 AM


  22. @SwimInBuff: I suspect that the Religious Right in the US is so self-centered that they believe God only cares about what happens in the US. The only time I have heard them discuss the facts of life in other countries has been when they lie about them.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Feb 9, 2013 12:02:13 AM


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