1. aki says

    I’m not sure that this constant pressure on gay players to come out is good . It puts them even more under a microscope. And I think it also fosters the idea that the first out player can’t just be a gay athlete. He has to be “St. Gay Athlete-Activist”. No scandals, stable relationship prefered, not just a bit player… You get the drill .
    Let them breath a little

  2. AriesMatt says

    @AKI, you are probably right, but you can’t discount the effects Chris Kluwe is having on a HUGE chunk of the population who otherwise wouldn’t even think about these types of things. He is championing our cause and make huge strides to increase acceptance of gays. Gotta love the man for that!

  3. Billy Crytical says

    What strides? There has never been an openly gay NFL player. Gay people will be enthralled by what heterosexuals say on the subject and ignore there are no results to back it up. It’s just lip service. Heterosexuals in the NFL want it to be a heterosexual guys’ club. They have worked that way long before they got to the NFL and flushed out many gay guys along the way who didn’t want to deal with the hostility. So the percentage of gay guys in the NFL is likely much, much lower than the general population. With that said a gay players should come out as he is approaching retirement. It will be a start.

  4. says

    Kluwe is an absolutely wonderful example and role model for fellow sports figures to create an environment in which gay players will some day soon be able to enjoy their lives openly.

  5. says


    Yes, the NFL is pretty much made by juvenile straight men FOR juvenile straight men whose masculinity is dependent on a 20 year old young man and his ability to throw a ball and run fast. I think we could just butt out to be honest. If they have a gay player, fine okay… In all seriousness there is pretty much nothing gain but I guess putting unnecessary pressure on whatever gay players they *might* have (h/t to AKI). I think there are probably zero gay players (males who are exclusively attracted to males)because most gay athletes know what the juvenile environment is like in the “holy sanctuary” of a stinky locker room and so are already discouraged from even trying out.

    As far as Chris Kluwe and Brendon Ayanbedejo, well I highly doubt they are going to make any changes (something brendon admitted on cnn) I think whatever impact these two might have might be in the sociopolitical side of things, not the sport itself.

  6. Francis says

    There are gay players. In fact a player was just outed post-retirement about 1 1/2 months ago. Wade Davis has said he knows gay and bisexual players currently playing in the NFL, and NBA too. Randy Moss said there are players that he and most everyone suspects and pretty much know are gay.

    Even if you believe 2% or so of players gay/bi, that’s a large number of closeted players. It’s true, that there is likely a significantly less number of non-heterosexual athletes in sports than in the general population due to homophobia but there are definitely more than a handful of non-straight players.

    Chris Kluwe gets it. He gets that it’s going to take softening the atmosphere and changing some of the culture to see a gay player feel comfortable enough to come out. He’s an amazing ally.

  7. EchtKultig says

    Hhhhhmmmm. Good for Chris. He’s one of the most articulate professional athletes I’ve ever heard. That being said this is still rather mysterious, and it’s easy to wonder if the whole thing was a somewhat bizarre public relations maneuver on the part of the NFL. I’ve listened to a couple interviews with Nick Kasa; there is no way a heterosexual, boneheaded sports recruiter would seriously wonder if he’s gay. End of discussion. So, they ask someone who’s obviously straight, probably isn’t homophobic enough to even be ashamed of even being asked – in fact he was probably somewhat amused…so what does he do? Of course he tells the media about it.

  8. Rich says

    Chris has done great work for us — he’s a shining star.

    The NFL says they don’t discriminate, and I’m sure that the worst thing that could happen is to hire a token gay. But it’s time for the NFL to send in the marines. Literally.

    The organizations have some key similarities: an ethos of hypermasculinity, a history of homophobia, and the need to create a band of brothers in situations where you have no control whatever over who your brother will be. Of all the armed services, the Corps was perhaps the most reluctant to allow open service by LGBT individuals, but they saluted smartly and educated their own to make the best implementation of Congress’ directive.

    In sum, there’s an wealth of experience, strength and hope on how to get past homophobia and build solid teams. I’ve no doubt, given the popularity of NFL players, that there will be volunteers (str8 and not) to meet with players groups and share. What may be needed is for Goodell to make the request of Hagel: the Defense Department has a vested interest in reducing the level of homophobia in their recruiting pool, so the benefits are not all one-way. And in the Age of Sequester, having a program that can be underwritten by the private sector is not exactly a handicap.

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