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Anti-Gay RNC Leader and Gay Republican Leader War Over Party's Marriage Position on 'Hardball': VIDEO


Check out thiis must-watch Hardball segment on Friday's RNC vote to reaffirm its opposition to same-sex marriage.

Chris Matthews watches with incredulity as Texas RNC Committeeman Robin Armstrong, who calls the GOP "the tolerant party", tells Matthews that he'd still join the GOP even if it were against the African-American civil rights movement.

Then Matthews asks Log Cabin Republican Executive Director Gregory Angelo how he likes being in a political party that doesn't believe in his equality. Says Angelo:"We're not part of the party because of its stance against so-called 'traditional marriage'. We're a part of the party in spite of that."

Armstrong and Angelo then engage in some back and forth debate with Matthews that reveals why the Republican Party is going down over this issue.


2_agemaIncidentally, the RNC resolution that was passed on Friday was sponsored by none other than Dave Agema, the Michigan committeeman who has been at the center of a GOP storm over the anti-gay comments he posted on Facebook.

Agema tooted his horn on Friday following the vote:

"I am pleased with our success in the face of unrelenting criticism from the left and want to thank national social conservative leaders who made their voices heard loud and clear in this process," Agema said in a release following today's vote at the RNC's annual spring meeting in Los Angeles.

"I hope that we can all now move forward and talk about other issues … We have won the battle, and I will have nothing more to say on this matter."

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  1. Republicans may have "won the battle," as Agema put it, but they have lost the war.

    Posted by: Voet | Apr 14, 2013 11:19:10 AM

  2. Everytime they say "It's arrogant to go against 6000 years of history saying marriage is between one man and one woman" absolutely proves that they know nothing about the history of marriage. Marriage has, in the past, and in some cultures today, been between multiple partners, usually one man and several women.

    Posted by: scollingsworth | Apr 14, 2013 11:23:04 AM

  3. Collectively, social conservatives share one, very old, rancid, hateful brain cell among them. This is old-old-stupid. Before the wheel. Before fire. Big Bang dumb.

    Posted by: Geoff | Apr 14, 2013 11:29:27 AM

  4. Ohhhhh the stupid!!!!! It burns like hot lava!!!!

    Posted by: Rob | Apr 14, 2013 11:32:52 AM

  5. I am not sure what people are drinking within the water in Texas...

    They certainly have an interesting crop of spoke persons currently in office there.

    I would suggest to R. Armstrong who is from and lives in Texas to review his history of
    Lyndon Johnson--at least in regards to his
    "Civil Rights" era policies.

    Nah....let them believe whatever they want.
    Makes for great reality TV

    Posted by: anthony | Apr 14, 2013 11:34:43 AM

  6. Wow, I hope he keeps talking. What a jackass. Bring down the Republicans more!

    Posted by: Paul R | Apr 14, 2013 11:36:17 AM

  7. They won a scripted, staged battle of no consequence with no opponent.

    Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen | Apr 14, 2013 11:38:37 AM

  8. Armstrong would join the party even if it were against the black civil rights movement and Angleo has joined the party even when they are against the gay civil rights movement. Guess these guys are made for one another... They would both sell their rights and soul for some nice tax cuts. Enjoy your money that you can't pass on to your partner when you die. Enjoy spending that money on lawyer's fees to get hospital visitation rights when he's sick, or if your husband is about to be deported because your marriage isn't recognized by the state. But hey, you saved some money in taxes... Must be worth it.

    Posted by: Graphicjack | Apr 14, 2013 11:42:20 AM

  9. Uncle and Aunt Toms.

    Posted by: SoLeftImRight | Apr 14, 2013 11:59:09 AM

  10. Marriage aside, I would like to ask Dr. Armstrong which gay rights the oh-so-inclusive, big tent Republican Party supports.

    Posted by: Dastius Krazitauc | Apr 14, 2013 12:05:03 PM

  11. actually, the GOP's anti-gay stance is the reason those gay republicans are anti-gay. it's that tired old textbook psych, brothers and sisters: whatever your oppressor hates about you, you hate about yourself, and hope that one day your self-hate earns their respect. alas, it never freakin' happens.

    i'm sure some of you will relate; i know so many friends who've said that coming out as Gay was less difficult than coming out as LIBERAL in their families.

    but no, sugarpie, you're not a republican in spite of their anti-gay prejudice: their anti-gay prejudice is what makes you swing right so hard, and so blindly. anything to buy back an ounce of pithy tolerance. in case you hadn't noticed, it's not worked. take a look at what we gay liberals do, and how liberals accept and champion us. try to emulate it. hint: it begins with a spine.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Apr 14, 2013 12:08:21 PM

  12. Another MSM failure. The resolution opposes SSM and civil unions.

    Posted by: BobN | Apr 14, 2013 12:08:22 PM

  13. Can we say "Lawn Jockey" boys and girls?

    Of course we can.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 14, 2013 12:20:35 PM

  14. Gotta love modern GOPers. They're as stupid as the dodo bird (and it ain't around anymore). As for the LCR's Executive Director stating his group is part of the self-proclaimed "tolerant party" even though it opposes SSM (and most anything "gay") in spite of GOPers' positions, I have to say, sir, you're looking like a dodo bird, too!

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Apr 14, 2013 12:29:22 PM

  15. not sure who's sadder, the bigot, or the apologist

    Posted by: t | Apr 14, 2013 12:29:37 PM

  16. Also notice their stupidity when they say how old marriage allegedly is. Either it's 6000 years, which is old they think the universe is. Or it's 2000 years which is how old their death cult is.

    Posted by: Steve | Apr 14, 2013 12:35:08 PM

  17. Well, as if that psudo-african thang wasn't enough to stomach on a sunny sunday morning...that pathetic fruit cake with a bad easter hat on brought my eggs benedict right up. It's a bad vaudeville act and even matthews gave me a gag response. I would say...chris...shut up long enough to let these morons hang themselves. It would make you're job oh! so much easier and they could get this hangin' over with much faster.

    Posted by: PAUL B. | Apr 14, 2013 12:37:36 PM

  18. A chance for Greg Angelo to firmly rebut spokeshole Armstrong : FAIL. Marriage is NOT (as we know it) a result of 6000 years of history. R. I. P. Republican party.

    Posted by: Jerry | Apr 14, 2013 12:50:06 PM

  19. Love how the GOTP keep shoving African Americans to battle against equality. Notice how he wasn't able to answer the questions. They have nothing but animus and that guy should be very ashamed of himself.

    Posted by: FAEN | Apr 14, 2013 1:31:55 PM

  20. Mr Smegma, I don't think "unrelenting criticism from the left" is what you have to worry about. Your own party has *finally* begun to turn AWAY from your position while meanwhile the rest of the country has been leaving you behind for some years now.

    so just shrivel up and die, already, willya?

    Posted by: DannyEastVillage | Apr 14, 2013 1:43:35 PM

  21. Of course the doctor has dismissed the Bible as real history. It definitely contains a lot of examples about one man and many women.

    Posted by: simon | Apr 14, 2013 2:20:12 PM

  22. I love Chris Matthews. I watch him daily. He always has been so supportive of gay rights and now same sex marraige. You had better know your stuff before you go on his show, otherwise you just might be HUMILIATED!!! Nobody does it better than Matthews.

    Posted by: Tom | Apr 14, 2013 2:34:52 PM

  23. Read the bible, Mr. Armstrong. In the bible, marriage is between one man and several women. That is the "traditional" biblical take on marriage. Jesus said nothing about marriage and God said nothing about marriage. All the verbiage of marriage is from men.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Apr 14, 2013 3:21:08 PM

  24. "I'm sure some of you will relate; i know so many friends who've said that coming out as Gay was less difficult than coming out as LIBERAL in their families."

    Gay was big deal (although looking back I waited to long to tell them). Liberal was easy. Atheist was big massive sh*tstorm.

    Posted by: GeoffreyPS | Apr 14, 2013 4:02:06 PM

  25. Ack... no big deal.

    Posted by: GeoffreyPS | Apr 14, 2013 4:02:53 PM

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