1. gwyneth cornrow says

    Yeah, they do this to black people all the time.
    Also, that cop looks like he could have a heart attack tomorrow. Maybe if he took better care of himself he would feel more confident and wouldn’t need to harass innocent citizens.

  2. jamal49 says

    No, they don’t do that to everybody. Just to blacks, latinos and gays. The NYPD is corrupt. Don’t ever count on them for anything. I have one cop in mind in particular who is a punk @$$hole in my precinct who f***s with everybody black, latino or gay and complaining does nothing. So, one day, yes, one day, that little prick is going to get his.

  3. Dastius Krazitauc says

    Even taking the gay part out of the story, how messed up is the NYPD that you get treated like that for simply taking a leak? If he had the urgent need to go, what was he supposed to do? Knock on doors and see if anyone would let him use their bathroom?

  4. Acronym Jim says

    Portland, Oregon. Google James Chasse, a homeless man suffering from schizophrenia who was taken down by the Portland police and eventually died from his injuries. His crime? Suspicion of urinating in public.

    This isn’t limited to the NYPD, but it is proof that some people should never have been given a badge and gun.

  5. says

    As one on both sides of this fence, I have to say a couple of things before the pile-on begins. Please take this post as informational and equal-handed and meant to have both sides not to jump to conclusions prior to an investigation, including looking for other video tapes, witnesses, etc.

    First and foremost, let the investigation happen, be it internal or parallel with an external one. That includes whether or not the arrestee was committing public urination, public exposure by pulling it out and not urinating, trespass in the police parking lot by the gas pump in the video shot, and/or resisting arrest. That also includes whether the police used excessive force based on the above. Also, whether the one friend was prevent the arrest in some way, be it blocking, pushing, grabbing or other way, which is the misdemeanor obstructing governmental administration. If that was the case, a police officer pushing him back and not arresting him for the charge is acceptable.

    Second, remember that there was the initial event prior the video’s beginning where more on both sides transpired and we do not know yet what that was. Let’s look for the other video tapes and witnesses. Also, is that the whole or edited video or any others exist? Would the owner of the cellphone and the AVP let an independent expert have access to the phone and look to see?

    Third, the language and demeanor on both side by some participants was uncalled for, especially when others behaved as well as they could during the situation. We obviously heard the arrestee’s friend since he was next to the camera, including the last sentence which seems to on multiple replays be a racial comment. Also, some of the police officers (I could not tell which were speaking all the time so let’s not assume all)were upright disrespectful and wrong in their language and engaging in back-and-forth arguing with the arrestee’s friend. The cops did not have to address the friend except to stop him if he was trying to stop the arrest and would have surely been smarter if they did just that. The one cop asked for his name and badge should have given it. I could not hear the anti-gay comment that he referred to one police officer making due to the volume of his voice but I am sure video experts can get exactly what was said.

    Lastly, check the version of the written police reports against the available video. If there are signifiant differences, there will punishment. Depending on the differences, it could range from administrative to criminal.

    Yes, we can have our feelings and moral outrage no matter where we are on this issue. Please, let’s us discuss it in a way that treats all participants as individuals and not stereotype them as typical examples of police officers or gays. NYPD and the NYC gay political and community leaders have worked hard on improving their relationship and internally it is wall know among the rank and file that the NYPD brass has a zero tolerance attitude on anti-gay harassment inside the department.

  6. GregV says

    Anyone who needs to urinate where a urinal is not available should be encouraged to aim for a drainage gutter or onto ground whereit will soak in and to keep it out of areas like covered doorways where it will linger. Beyond that, the cops (100% of whom have surely “publicly urinated” at some point) surely have better things to fo thsn yo harrass people at all, let alone violently.
    On a side note, what does the journalist intend to mean by the over-used cliche “openly” gay? Does it mean anything at all? Were these particular gay people doing something that “closeted gay” or even “quietly gay” people don’t do when they’re walking doen the street?

  7. Jay jay says

    Wow that’s pretty retarded .. N after the investigation they’r probably just gonna get sometime off with pay since its such a ‘brotherhood’ in the force. Hope they sue their ass off one way or another to the best of these orgs’ capabilities. These bad apples needs to go.. They make the whole org bad.

  8. BGKev says

    Well, I think what initially prompted the overreaction by the cops was that they thought he pissed on THEIR building. i.e. seeing it as a deliberate act of contempt. I’m not justifying the reaction, I’m just saying that’s how I think it escalated so quickly.

  9. Cam says

    They are “survivors”? What a joke. 2 of these guys were just arrested and suffered no violence at all. They are “survivors” of arrest?

    What an insult to people who truly survive a brush with death. This is just politically correct nonsense because the anti-violence project doesn’t like to use the word “victim.” I am so sick of PC.

  10. ratbastard says

    YES, they do stuff like this to white guys and women,too. Not just black, Latino, and gay. There is no secret code word or gang sign white guys use when dealing with cops, trust me. And NYC has it’s full share of non-white cops who are just as capable of being aholes.

    NY state has a bill that could become law that’ll make it a FELONY to harass or bother police. YES, THE BILL IS WRITTEN VAGUELY. Meaning just looking sideways at a police officer, or dealing with a police officer who got out of the wrong side of the bed that day, could end up with you being arrested and charged with a felony.

  11. ratbastard says

    AND all you ‘progressives’ on here who want to have it where only cops [and criminals,of course] have firearms should be embarrassed. Same people who hate cops, distrust them, whine endlessly about them, also get their panties in a bunch and scream ‘dial 911!’ [let the cops deal with it!] when they’re being assaulted, raped, killed, robbed, etc. You can’t have it both ways. That’s living in a fantasy world. It’s like a little kid or teen mouthing off and being rude endlessly to their parent[s], then begging and expecting them to help them when needed.

  12. Francis #1 says

    Actually, Rat, if you look at the statistics, LGBTQ people are BY FAR the least likely to contact police in these circumstances so I disagree with you about that. I agree with your premise but it doesn’t translate to LGBTQ people.

    And that’s because most LGBTQ people expect to be re-victimized if they go to police regarding any sort of bashing/attack. And, of course, police regularly bash us anyway so there’s absolutely no trust from our community towards police, especially LGBTQ persons of color/inner-city gays.

    @Wolf In Pig’s Clothing…..past history has to be taken into account here. It’s not as if this is the first story of gay bashing from the NYPD in the past year. Innocent before being proven guilty, true, but the video is damning.

  13. Zeta says

    @ Greenfuzz, that’s why I hate the end of the month/beginning of the next month. Every cop seems out making quota instead of doing the dangerous-but-also-necessary stuff. Meanwhile, it’d be nice if they followed traffic laws, themselves.

  14. Jeton Ademaj says

    Police are vastly over-empowered, and Queer people are far too comfortable relying on police for protection.

    Police should fear citizens at least as much as citizens fear police.

    First and foremost, the 2nd Amendment was written and adopted so that in any Ultimate contest between The People and The Government, The People would win…by violence, if needed.

    Impunity is always corrupting. Our cops feel a sense of impunity attacking Queers.

    in the month of June, we all celebrate a RIOT where some of us bashed back *violently*…against police, and the Power they fronted.

    cue the cowards now…i’m curious to see the effect of press conferences and vigils.

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