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LGBT Issues Make Appearance at Bradley Manning Trial: VIDEO


The Bradley Manning trial enters its second day today. It is expected to run all summer.

The AP reports on the first day:

The soldier from Crescent, Okla., has said he did not believe the information would harm the U.S. and he released the information to enlighten the public about the bitter reality of America’s wars.

...His attorney has also said Manning struggled privately with gender identity early in his tour of duty, when gays couldn’t openly serve in the military. Those struggles led Manning to “feel that he needed to do something to make a difference in this world,” Coombs said.

[Adrian Lamo, a convicted hacker] testified Manning had contacted him because of his notoriety in the hacking community and because of his open support and leadership in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.

Watch a clip from Reason TV on the protests in support of Bradley Manning, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. By using his LGBT status he simply taints the entire LGBT community with his CLEARLY illegal (and thus, traitorous, REGARDLESS if you think the whistle-blowing was necessary) activities. Very tired of special interest political groups USING LGBT issues, Pride, etc. as a vehicle to spread their messages, which have NOTHING to do with LGBT issues, Pride, etc. grrr

    Posted by: Jesse | Jun 4, 2013 2:18:41 PM

  2. And many of us openly gay people are pretty tired of you anonymous hack closet-cases "tainting" our community with your cowardice and toe-the-line idiocy when it comes to whistleblowers like Manning.

    he was not, nor is he, a traitor.

    unless you can finally, for once, cite what was specifically leaked that was explicitly traitorous. and explain why.

    but hey, you losers won't. so buzz off.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 2:22:35 PM

  3. Kiwi is like a steaming kettle. You never know when he'll go full boil. Did you ever consider that most people don't even know what LGBT means? The fact that Manning is gay demonstrates that gays have guts.

    Posted by: BG | Jun 4, 2013 2:32:34 PM

  4. As a proud U.S. citizen and U.S. Navy veteran, I believe that Manning's actions were unpatriotic at best and traitorous at worst.

    Posted by: andrew | Jun 4, 2013 2:37:21 PM

  5. Annon my ass, Kiwi. Gay and proud in SF. Not proud of Manning or your entitled ass.

    Posted by: Jesse | Jun 4, 2013 2:39:34 PM

  6. Kiwi he committed a crime and leak classified military secrets during a time of war that is the very definition of a traitor, hell any other country he'd have been put up again at a wall by now.

    Posted by: Lee | Jun 4, 2013 2:42:39 PM

  7. I also wonder if Bradley Manning would have all of the gay support if he were a black obese lesbian. I think not......

    Posted by: Chris | Jun 4, 2013 2:43:18 PM

  8. Are you serious, Chris? If he were a black obese lesbian his nomination for SF pride grand would have sailed through.Heck, proclaiming he is "possibly trans" titillated the dozen or so entitled activists that keep trying to shanghai SF Pride for Manning's cause.

    Posted by: Jesse | Jun 4, 2013 2:51:35 PM

  9. detrators - please cite at least one (1) piece of leaked information that "put Americans at risk"

    if you can't, you're just like those Republicans whose biggest issue with Obama is that he's, uh, a "socialist"

    specifics, please. explicitly explained.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 2:56:26 PM

  10. Manning has already pled guilty to a number of charges. This trial will determine whether or not he deserves to go to prison for the rest of his life, not if he goes free or to prison.

    Posted by: Charlie | Jun 4, 2013 3:00:39 PM

  11. Manning is not gay. Over 60,000 LGB soldiers and serving loyally in the armed forces. This disgraceful scum, who betrayed his trust and his fellow soldiers and who attacked a pillar of civilization - diplomacy - is is 100% tranny. The Adrian Lamo online discussions make this absolutely clear.

    This is what happens when you put mentally and emotionally unbalanced people in a position of trust. Not only has this scumbag undermined diplomacy, the greatest alternative to war, and endangered his fellow servicemembers, but he also put at risk the repeal of DADT, by smearing LGB soldiers by association. (Another good reason for gay people to never, ever identify themselves as LGBT.)

    We already know that "Breanna" Manning, as he likes to be called, is going to prison, since he already pled guilty to certain charges. Hopefully it will be a hard labor camp for years and years. Work it girl!

    Posted by: Chaz | Jun 4, 2013 3:03:27 PM

  12. Bradass isn't a whistleblower. If he was he would have released specific information about wrongdoings to an AMERICAN journalist. He instead contacted hackers, and foreign nationals to disseminate information. He is a disgrace, and I don't support, or defend him. He did what he did, and deserves the trial, and punishment he gets.

    Posted by: Jason M | Jun 4, 2013 3:13:13 PM

  13. And what specifically did he do and what specific leaks make him a traitor?

    So far, nobody has given even ONE citation or example.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 3:25:08 PM

  14. "American journalists"? It is hilarious that you think such creatures exist. Now tell me about the three bears, but first answer Kiwi's question.

    Posted by: melvin | Jun 4, 2013 3:35:53 PM

  15. OK kiwi, what specifically did he whistle blow about?

    Posted by: Jason M | Jun 4, 2013 3:36:30 PM

  16. This isn't Faux News, you don't evade a question by asking another question

    Clearly folks have a problem with what you think (or were told?) Manning did.

    so, specifics please.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 3:41:04 PM

  17. Because Kiwi, as many have tried to explain, his INTENT was enough. The fact that the release documents didn't lead to damage does not mean he didn't INTEND to commit the crime. Had he contacted an undercover cop to leak the info, there would obviously have been no ACTUAL crime because it was an undercover cop. You keep asking the same irrelevant question. It doesn't matter legally whether there was any damage. He intended to leak documents recklessly and negligently and that is enough to get him arrested and possbily convicted.

    Posted by: FakeOutrage | Jun 4, 2013 3:41:28 PM

  18. What was Rosa Parks' intent in breaking the law a few decades ago?

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 3:46:36 PM

  19. Where was the outrage when a certain Bush Admin crony outed Valerie Plame?

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 3:48:53 PM

  20. as far as I can see, Manning is less of a "traitor to America" than anyone who's voted Republican in the last 20 years.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 3:52:20 PM

  21. Not to get too technical, but most of this case will center on what constitutes a military secret from a normal govt. secret. The issue is that the vast majority of what he leaked were diplomatic cables, not military derived messages or information. There's a second technicality which doesn't really apply, but might come up for the defense, which is the secondary sources issue. A lot of what's labeled "secret" is actually things like newspaper clippings, which are already obviously public. The defense can't really argue that the govt. has a poor secrets standard, but they might--at least until the judge knocks it down.

    As to the politics of the court martial, the pressure of LGBT activists has been so diffuse that it won't have much effect on the outcome. As they say, mere facts don't make a political argument. There's been some speculation that Manning's defense team will try out political arguments, but I'm thinking this is unlikely given that they'll just get slapped down by the judge.

    Posted by: anon | Jun 4, 2013 3:55:11 PM

  22. He blew the whistle on what he felt was abuse of military power against civilians. That part's easy: the video leaked speaks for itself.

    What isn't easy is all the thousands of other documents he leaked, many of which he probably never read.

    It's true no one's officially stepped up yet to give concrete examples of damage or lives put in danger due to the leaks. It'll be interesting to see what the claims are.

    Nothing the public's seen yet deserves the treatment Manning has gotten so far, not under our flag.

    Posted by: Sean in Dallas | Jun 4, 2013 4:01:59 PM

  23. Kiwi, Rosa Park intended to break a specific law and utilitzed a very specific means of doing so. As I'm sure you're aware Rosa didn't just 'decide" one day to sit on that bus, she worked strategcially with many Civil rights leaders and groups, who determined the most consructive means to address this issue. As I'm sure you are also aware there were many groups who burned down buildings etc. Those groups were less effective than Parks well thought out plan.
    You may feel very pasionate about, say the enviroment but that doesn't give you license to burn down buildings to highlight your cause (even if the builidngs are empty and noone got hurt). Do I fee for Manning and his plight? Sure, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he had a "pure heart". But that alone does not give you license to do whatever you want. Manning could have leaked specific info about specific atrocities (in the thinking of Rosa Parks) and maybe then we could get on board in a "whatever means necessay" kind of way. He didn't do that. He "burned down buildings" without a thought as to whether they were occupied or not. And for that, I can't side with him. Ideological differences not withstanding. Palmer and Bush, you'll get no argument. The fact that one crime is not being pursued doesn't mean we don't purpose any.

    Posted by: FakeOutrage | Jun 4, 2013 4:06:13 PM


    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jun 4, 2013 4:09:38 PM

  25. Kiwi: Watch the trial. You obviously have a lot of time on your hands.

    Posted by: BG | Jun 4, 2013 4:55:06 PM

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