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Australian PM Tony Abbott Warns Gay Couples Against Marrying, Wishes Lesbian Sister Well: VIDEO


Reacting to news that a same-sex marriage bill was passed earlier this week in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT), Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott warned gay couples against marrying there in an interview with Melbourne radio station 3AW:

"If as I think the ACT legislation turns out to be invalid under the Constitution, well then those marriages wouldn't be valid. So I'd suggest to people who would like to be married under the ACT legislation - hold on 'til its validity is tested...It's not a question of being for or against gay marriage. It's a question of adhering to the Constitution. We are going to challenge this because we think that the Constitution should be adhered to."

ForsterAbbott is personally opposed to same-sex marriage and says he won't be changing his mind, even though his sister Christine Forster is gay and she's engaged to her partner Virginia Edwards.

Added Abbott when asked about that news:

"She's a terrific advocate, an outstanding advocate. She chews my ear up hill and down dale on this subject. I wish her and Virginia all the best for their future happiness and if there's a ceremony of some kind, yes I'll be there with a present. I'll do the right thing. But look, I am a traditionalist on this. From time immemorial, in every culture that's been known, marriage or that kind of solemnized relationship has been between a man and a woman."

Watch part of the interview, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. I wish my "all the best." What a hypocrite. He says that with a straight face and denies her marriage equality.

    Posted by: woody | Oct 23, 2013 8:44:29 AM

  2. "From time immemorial, in every culture that's been known, marriage or that kind of solemnized relationship has been between a man and a woman."

    That is simply untrue. Marriage has taken many forms with varying numbers of partners over the years. One need only read the Bible to ascertain that FACT. Marriages usually had one man, but often many, even HUNDREDS of wives and concubines on the side. Many native American tribes married same gender two-spirit people, even the Catholic church, early on, married male couples.

    Certainly, Mr. Abbott and others are entitled to their own opinions, however they are not entitled to create "facts" from whole cloth.

    Posted by: Joesph Foster | Oct 23, 2013 8:50:58 AM

  3. Uh, no. If there were "some kind of ceremony" and that bigot were my brother, he would NOT be there, would not be invited to be there, and would be removed if he showed up uninvited.

    Posted by: skepticalcicada | Oct 23, 2013 8:51:08 AM

  4. New Aussie PM Abbott is a hypocrite and a loser - plain and simple - when it comes to the LGBT citizens of his country. He's as bad as any US GOPer presidential candidate. Maybe he's worse because he's now in a position to give lives equality like those of their fellow citizens of Australia.

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Oct 23, 2013 8:52:29 AM

  5. Mr. Abbott would also have us believe that Mormon polygamy never existed and that the Mormon church did not marry a single man to many women?

    Posted by: Joesph Foster | Oct 23, 2013 9:00:28 AM

  6. In other words, "I'm too much of a pussy to stand up for my sister and others like her because I might lose political support."

    Posted by: Michael W. | Oct 23, 2013 9:17:05 AM

  7. Actually, it's not hypocrisy. He clearly says he's a traditionalist -- we know that going in -- but it's his sister, he loves her, he'll show up and bring a gift. This is probably the advice Dear Abby would have given. It would be terrible for him to shun his sister.

    See, we'll jump on him if he shows up and jump on him if he doesn't show up. We're stacking the deck. And we're projecting our psychological desires onto his and his sister's situation.

    Posted by: will | Oct 23, 2013 9:17:15 AM

  8. How much more two-faced can you get?

    Posted by: Jack M | Oct 23, 2013 9:31:34 AM

  9. Typical Australian - speaking from both sides of his mouth.

    Posted by: brett | Oct 23, 2013 9:46:22 AM

  10. ...and IF he were my brother - Id buy STEAL tipped shoes and KICK in right in the Ballz with all my might!!!

    Posted by: disgusted american | Oct 23, 2013 9:55:27 AM

  11. He is completely wrong about this. There have been plenty of cultures that recognized same-sex unions in one form or another.

    And even if not? Slavery is a time honored tradition too.

    Posted by: Steve | Oct 23, 2013 10:19:10 AM

  12. Be sure to thank Julia Gillard for being a bigot and blocking marriage equality with her time in office and leaving the fate of the LGBT community to this piece of garbage.

    Posted by: Kevin | Oct 23, 2013 10:20:30 AM

  13. @Will
    He doesn't love her. He just pretends to be. It probably doesn't feel like love to her unless she is really desperate.

    Posted by: Steve | Oct 23, 2013 10:24:07 AM

  14. They must have pleasent and easy going family dinners.

    Posted by: Matt27 | Oct 23, 2013 10:38:56 AM

  15. "I am a traditionalist on this. From time immemorial, in every culture that's been known, marriage or that kind of solemnized relationship has been between a man and a woman."

    The same could have been said of slavery until the 19th century or the subjugation of women into the 20th century. Some things are plain wrong and this poor SOB of a brother doesn't get it.

    Posted by: Cycledoc | Oct 23, 2013 10:41:19 AM

  16. To all the Auzzies out there, why not just move to NZ, where we're ain't so "traditional", which seems to be code for bigoted.


    Posted by: Ryan K | Oct 23, 2013 11:04:54 AM

  17. Swear there there is some sort of evil template of absurd strategies that these jerks follow. Tony Abbott’s new center right government immediately issued high court challenges to ACT's same sex marriage laws saying that marriage should only be between a man and a woman as it ALWAYS has been. (Laugh here.) Then he reinforced his position on global warming as a main CLIMATE DENIER despite mounting and irrefutable evidence to the contrary. He said that the now increasingly extensive fires are "Only part of the Australian experience". Sure. What a total waste of skin he is . . .

    Posted by: Mike | Oct 23, 2013 11:33:55 AM


    Or else what?

    Let's say they do get married in ACTs. Then what?

    Is he gonna throw them in jail and then joke about how they'll be B'F'ed by some tattooed guy named Bubba?

    If he runs around pre-emptively threatening people - he should tell the world what their punishment will be...

    ...just like Russia.

    We will wait, Commrade PM.

    Posted by: Jenny 0 | Oct 23, 2013 12:12:07 PM

  19. "But look, I am a traditionalist on this. From time immemorial, in every culture that's been known, marriage or that kind of solemnized relationship has been between a man and a woman."

    So -- if his belief that this has been true 'From time immemorial' is proven wrong will he change his mind? Alrighty then... There is sufficient proof in many sources that the church blessed such unions in the olden days. He could start with John Boswell's "Same-sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"; there's plenty of evidence there.

    Posted by: Alex Parrish | Oct 23, 2013 1:24:58 PM

  20. Shouldn't couples get married anyway, and if the Abbot government tries to challenge the law, then sue the government? Any Aussie constitutional law experts out there who could weigh in on this?

    Posted by: Albert | Oct 23, 2013 2:04:11 PM

  21. Wishing one's sister well is one thing, but if the PM is actually planning to attend his sister's lesbian wedding then it's highly likely that he is in the process of rethinking his opposition to SSM. I don't know where he will ultimately end up on this issue, but there's no reason to start savaging a person who's starting to show some willingness to be tolerant.

    Doesn't evolving occur in stages? If he ends up following the Australia equivalent of Towleroad it may take him about a year or so to become pro-equality!

    Posted by: Mary | Oct 23, 2013 2:20:45 PM

  22. Tony Abbott - Australia's intellectual nobody. He also referred to the events in Syria in the terms of 'goodies' and 'baddies'. I'd prefer George W. as PM.

    Posted by: Tristram | Oct 24, 2013 3:40:39 AM

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