Donald Trump Tells Thomas Roberts He Wants to 'Make a Difference' in Anti-Gay Russia: VIDEO


On his MSNBC show this morning, Thomas Roberts spoke with Miss Universe owner Donald Trump about his decision to host the pageant in Moscow, a decision that has created some blowback not only because of calls for a Russian boycott over the country's anti-gay laws, but because of Trump's positions opposing marriage equality and the sexist nature of pageants.

Roberts said this morning said he understood the "tremendous amount of hypocrisy that goes along" with his trip, in an interview on Morning Joe.

In the interview, Roberts asks Trump how he feels about Russia's anti-gay laws. Says Trump:

"I don't like it. I don't like what that is all  about, and as you know, and I think you probably feel very similar to me, We can go over there and maybe make a difference. You can avoid it and that's one way of handling it, or you can go over there and ver,y perhaps, make a difference. We have many people in the pageant system who happen to be gay...and they actually feel very enthused about this because they feel we can make a difference as a group, and individually."

Responds Roberts:

"In offering me this assignment, I'm an openly gay and married man, you are professionally flying in the face of these laws and you are agreeing that LGBT people are integrated and equal members of society, so does that change any of your prior public stances on marriage equality here in the U.S."

Trump says it does not change any of his prior stances:

"No it doesn't change...Going to Moscow is a great thing. Going in the face of some of their rules regulations or laws is something that frankly - something we can avoid it and hide - which I don't think is good - the gay groups in Moscow are loving the fact that we are going over there. So we can hide, or we can do something about it. So I think that you're going to do something about it, and I think that I'm going to do something about it."


The LGBT community will no doubt hold Roberts and Trump to their promises.


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  1. It's official - Donald Trump has multiple personalities. He seems to have a talent for shutting down his brain while his mouth is in gear.

    Posted by: Jack M | Oct 18, 2013 12:44:43 PM

  2. OK - I'm going to give Roberts the benefit of the doubt and accept his intention that he wants to 'make a difference'.

    But I need more detail.

    HOW specifically is he going to make a difference?

    What is he going to do to ensure that Russia and the world knows what he thinks of these homophobic laws?

    If he thinks going to Russia, recloseting himself while there, and accept a fat paycheck for the gig, then he is sorely mistaken.

    That would simply make him a selfish Uncle Tom.

    Posted by: MaryM | Oct 18, 2013 12:46:48 PM

  3. Of course, Roberts isn't in any danger of being arrested by Russian authorities...

    Posted by: NotSafeForWork | Oct 18, 2013 12:48:33 PM

  4. It's all about the money.

    Posted by: mike128 | Oct 18, 2013 12:56:39 PM

  5. We're going to go over there and do something about it = We're going to go over there and make MONEY. If they say ONE word against Russia's anti-gay laws that airs in Russia, I'll eat my words. But, sorry Thomas, going over there and just being gay doesn't say a damn thing, especially to 99.999% of Russians who don't know you.

    Posted by: MrRoboto | Oct 18, 2013 12:57:46 PM

  6. I have a bigger problem with Roberts allying with Trump who JUST TOLD HIM TO HIS FACE that he still doesn't support his marriage. How can you ally with a homophobe to challenge homophobia?

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Oct 18, 2013 1:08:56 PM

  7. That actually nauseated me, in large part because of seeing someone I like and admire propping up of Donald Trump. As if Trump cares one whit about the anti-gay laws in Russia.

    Posted by: Dastius Krazitauc | Oct 18, 2013 1:11:31 PM

  8. By "do something about it," Mr. Trump means exploit the fact he's putting a gay man in danger to pump up the ratings.

    Who is he kidding? He's going to do nothing except crow about it hoping people tune in to see if the Russian police come and arrest Robert Thomas while he's asking a contestant what she feels about marriage equality.

    Posted by: Bart | Oct 18, 2013 1:14:20 PM

  9. From today's Moscow Times:

    "As for the pageant program, organizers said it would be co-hosted by Mel B, whose full name is Melanie Brown, and U.S. television journalist Thomas Roberts. The duo will replace the host from the past two years, Andy Cohen, who bowed out this summer to protest Russia's new law banning "homosexual propaganda" to minors.
    "The law is that anyone under suspicion of homosexuality can be arrested," Cohen said in announcing his withdrawal on U.S. television in August. He added that he "didn't feel right as a gay man stepping foot into Russia."

    Posted by: Jeff | Oct 18, 2013 1:17:45 PM

  10. So the Moscow Times notes that Andy Cohen, who refuses to host, is gay but fails to mention that Roberts, who sought out the gig, is gay as well. Yeah, really making a difference there Tom...

    Posted by: KT | Oct 18, 2013 1:24:26 PM

  11. #donaldtrump is an idiot!!! He really thinks it is worth coming out and let folks see you're gay...what happens once the Miss Universe is over?? they could get arrested, their children taken away...or even get killed...for what? Fck U Donal Trump and Thomas Roberts is an idiot too.

    Posted by: Bosie | Oct 18, 2013 1:25:05 PM

  12. Trump is a bigot, but he's smart. He's using Thomas like a big ol' token gay so he can claim that he isn't supporting the anti-gay laws enforced in that country.

    What I would really like to see is the event boycotted by gay and gay ally pageant industry workers who make these shows possible -- including hairdressers, stylists, designers, lighting/sound technicians, etc. I'd LOVE to see Trump's people try to hold a successful pageant without any gay support whatsoever.

    But I know that's wishful thinking. All those gay people aren't going to pass up an opportunity to put this event on their resumes and collect those checks.

    Posted by: sparks | Oct 18, 2013 1:29:07 PM

  13. Thomas Roberts is gay.
    Mel B is bi.

    What a pair of sellouts.

    Posted by: MaryM | Oct 18, 2013 1:31:10 PM

  14. Thomas Roberts is delusional and certainly not a journalist. He lost this fan and viewer. He's a sellout and more of a trained monkey for that homophobic birther.

    Posted by: Mick | Oct 18, 2013 1:33:47 PM

  15. Beyond disappointed in Thomas for being played like this...I thought he was smarter than that. But apparently not! Either that, or he's completely cynical and doing it for the money, 'cause he has to realize that his hosting duties will not change Trump's mind or that of the Russian government.

    Posted by: Pitt90 | Oct 18, 2013 1:37:11 PM

  16. Well, maybe they have a plan. I'll remain hopeful/positive, but we all know Trump is as much of a weasel as it gets.

    Posted by: Francis #1 | Oct 18, 2013 1:38:10 PM

  17. Combine "newsman" + puppet of anti-gay sleaze ball Trump + Miss Universe pageant + Putin's Russia ... Sorry, but even if Roberts shouts that he's gay from Red Square, his decision does not speak well for his integrity. It makes him look like Trump's and Putin's good little gay whore. Gross. People diss Andy Cohen on here, but he made the right decision for the right reason.

    Posted by: Ernie | Oct 18, 2013 1:41:17 PM

  18. It's not just Uncle Tom Roberts who is a sellout.

    Let's not forget that co-host Mel B is bi.

    Posted by: MaryM | Oct 18, 2013 1:42:57 PM

  19. Next Thomas Roberts will be an MC at a WBC fundraiser or a Focus on the Family fundraiser.

    Posted by: PBashline | Oct 18, 2013 2:01:21 PM

  20. Just hope that nobody thinks that Thomas Roberts should be in any way an example. He sold our rights and the ones of the Russian gay for a pack of Putin's money.

    Posted by: lukebrux | Oct 18, 2013 2:17:41 PM

  21. It's fun to watch when someone doesn't realize a they are ruining their career. And Andy may be too.

    Posted by: PC | Oct 18, 2013 2:18:31 PM

  22. Is your spellcheck hungover this morning, Andy?

    I accept Thomas's point of view as being valid. Shame that in order to accomplish his goal, he has to get in bed with that orange muppet.

    Trump Stank is hard to wash off.

    Posted by: FFS | Oct 18, 2013 2:18:50 PM

  23. Did you miss what the newspaper said? They said selling gay propaganda to minors!!? WTF? The ban is about being gay. That's all. So basically they are making everyone think that Andy refused because he thinks minors should be sold about or taken advantaged by gay people.

    Damn. Wording is everyone and surprised so many missed that.

    Posted by: Rowan | Oct 18, 2013 2:26:20 PM

  24. Tomas Roberts is bought and paid for. The fact that he claims he is helping gays is a crock of s---. When a blog creator knows the real story and blocks it, he a fraud to gay rights.

    Posted by: Cover | Oct 18, 2013 2:40:32 PM

  25. Thomas, you've gone from my tit list to the other one

    Posted by: Jaker | Oct 18, 2013 2:51:27 PM

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