On his MSNBC show this morning, Thomas Roberts spoke with Miss Universe owner Donald Trump about his decision to host the pageant in Moscow, a decision that has created some blowback not only because of calls for a Russian boycott over the country's anti-gay laws, but because of Trump's positions opposing marriage equality and the sexist nature of pageants.
Roberts said this morning said he understood the "tremendous amount of hypocrisy that goes along" with his trip, in an interview on Morning Joe.
In the interview, Roberts asks Trump how he feels about Russia's anti-gay laws. Says Trump:
"I don't like it. I don't like what that is all about, and as you know, and I think you probably feel very similar to me, We can go over there and maybe make a difference. You can avoid it and that's one way of handling it, or you can go over there and ver,y perhaps, make a difference. We have many people in the pageant system who happen to be gay…and they actually feel very enthused about this because they feel we can make a difference as a group, and individually."
Responds Roberts:
"In offering me this assignment, I'm an openly gay and married man, you are professionally flying in the face of these laws and you are agreeing that LGBT people are integrated and equal members of society, so does that change any of your prior public stances on marriage equality here in the U.S."
Trump says it does not change any of his prior stances:
"No it doesn't change…Going to Moscow is a great thing. Going in the face of some of their rules regulations or laws is something that frankly – something we can avoid it and hide – which I don't think is good – the gay groups in Moscow are loving the fact that we are going over there. So we can hide, or we can do something about it. So I think that you're going to do something about it, and I think that I'm going to do something about it."
Watch, AFTER THE JUMP…
The LGBT community will no doubt hold Roberts and Trump to their promises.