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  1. Not that Rob says

    I’m not sure what Israel’s laws are pertaining to gays adopting, but if you can’t afford the hundreds of thousands of dollars for surrogacy, then give a child in need a home. Sounds like they’re being selfish and entitled.

  2. unruly says

    Pathetic. If you’re going the route of surrogacy, you should do it with your own money and not beg from others. If you’re going the route of adoption then you have charity on your side. That is noble.

    This falls on the selfish side.

  3. guynyc says

    @bandanajack – thank you! adoption by a same-sex couple in israel is illegal and it is next to impossible for gays to have a baby in any capacity in the state – they all have to go outside – which is extremely expensive in any way (adoption or surrogacy) AND once they bring the child back the laws pertaining to parenting are equally oppressive. they are simply being creative trying to achieve their dream – NOTHING selfish about that – if you think it’s selfish, simply don’t give.

  4. guynyc says

    @bandanajack – thank you! adoption by a same-sex couple in israel is illegal and it is next to impossible for gays to have a baby in any capacity in the state – they all have to go outside – which is extremely expensive in any way (adoption or surrogacy) AND once they bring the child back the laws pertaining to parenting are equally oppressive. they are simply being creative trying to achieve their dream – NOTHING selfish about that – if you think it’s selfish, simply don’t give.

  5. JamesInCA says

    @Guynyc – Wikipedia cites two Israel Supreme Court decisions upholding the right of a same-sex partner to adopt his or her partner’s child. According to the same article, the adoption law is silent on the issue.

    I’m not saying it’s easy, but please stop saying same-sex adoption is “illegal” or “forbidden.” That is not the truth.

    And yes, even though it’s a remarkably progressive country in some ways, anything touching on marriage or birth in Israel is unusually complicated because of the state-sanctioned involvement of the rabbinate in those matters.

  6. RK says

    I applaud them for wanting to have a child. If anything, their plight as gay couple wanting to have a family points out the bigtory, discrimmination, and homophobia still rampant. They should not have to be put through this.

  7. Kevin says

    I actually feel bad for them. Anyone who has been on the journey knows that it is expensive and has its ups and downs. Personally, i think IVF should be covered by universal healthcare (surrogacy is too going too far.) Even if you are a right wing, producing a taxpayer makes senses and to people who want desperately to be parents. 3 surro attempts here, 2 full term pregnancies, 3 babies.

  8. Randy says

    Seriously, just adopt. Kids need your help, and the rest of the mammals on the planet do NOT need more competition.

    Do the right thing, not the selfish thing.

  9. guynyc says

    @Jamesinca – there is a big difference between being able to adopt your gay partner’s biological children and a loving couple wanting to simply adopt a baby that is neither of theirs biologically speaking. And, it is forbidden and illegal, so no, I will not stop saying that. The fact that if one of them had a baby already prior to their relationship or during, the other one could adopt does not change the fact that the two of them together as a couple cannot. That is still against the law, and wrong. This couple has suffered some tragedies. I know it wasn’t your argument, but to all those who say it is selfish. shame.

  10. anon says

    If they can’t adopt (though that’s hard to believe unless you mean dual adoption), then having a biological child would be the only option. Here’s a wild idea: get a sister or cousin to volunteer. Then the DNA will come from both families!

  11. David says

    Surrogacy and fertility services can be very expensive. Several heterosexual couples I know have resorted to either (or both). Nobody has criticized these couples for being selfish. Gay couples shouldn’t be condemned either… especially in the gay community.

  12. FFS says

    I’d happily volunteer to inseminate either or both of these humpy guys. Although, admittedly, my track record with making babies using this method isn’t great, thus far.

  13. Lee says

    Lots of lies on here israel has allow same sex partners to adopt another partners bio child since 2005 after the HCOJ rule it so( they also said they must recognize forgin same sex marriages) and in 2008 a district(state) high court rule joint adoption legal which ever justice minister since then has said is legally binding on all of eratz Israel.

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